Richard Smith for Dr Oluwatayo: firstly you talk about what happens now in terms of desirability of setting up meetings where things can be planned, at the time, in 2016, am I right in taking from your evidence there was no way of setting up a meeting AMHPs could attend?

Richard Smith for Dr Oluwatayo: firstly you talk about what happens now in terms of desirability of setting up meetings where things can be planned, at the time, in 2016, am I right in taking from your evidence there was no way of setting up a meeting AMHPs could attend?