MW: I certainly heard what Ms Joyner said, I have to say sir I wasn’t sure that dealt with the key issue, it was making sure phones were in place, they knew that wasn’t going to work. That’s not hindsight. It hadn’t worked and they knew it wouldn’t happen.

MW: I certainly heard what Ms Joyner said, I have to say sir I wasn’t sure that dealt with the key issue, it was making sure phones were in place, they knew that wasn’t going to work. That’s not hindsight. It hadn’t worked and they knew it wouldn’t happen.